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Knowledge and Learning are two Different things by Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Knowledge and Learning are two Different things

Eight Public Talks with Young People, Claremont Colleges, USA, 1968

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Length 10 hours 9 minutes
Language English
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Three Public Talks 1. A radical transformation in the psyche itself - 8 November 1968 Duration: 80 minutes • To communicate we must know that the word is not the thing and also be in that state of mind whose quality is attention, care. That can only take place if we are serious. • We are the world and the world is us. To bring about a radical transformation, which is so essential in society, there must be radical transformation in ourselves. • Analysis of violence does not end violence, nor is violence ended by thinking of non-violence. • There is no teacher outside, no saviour, no master; you yourself have to change and therefore you have to learn to observe, to know yourself. • Knowledge and learning are two different things. • Q: What is this silence you talk about? The silence that I am experiencing comes and goes. 2. Thought is the cause of fear - 10 November 1968 Duration: 76 minutes • Though we have plenty of energy, apparently we lack the drive, enthusiasm, vitality to bring about a change in ourselves. • As long as there is fear there must be violence, aggression, anger, hatred. Thought is the source of fear. • Is it possible to live everyday life without thought interfering? • Thought is always old. When you worship thought you are worshipping some thing that is dead. • Q: Could you discuss the process of verbalisation that goes on when one observes? • Q: How do we get rid of this separation, division in ourselves? 3. The benediction of meditation - 17 November 1968 Duration: 67 minutes • We shall explore together into this life, existence, in which is included relationship, love and death, not merely as a phenomenon but as something tremendously significant, to be cherished, deeply lived. Meditation is the approach to this problem of living. • It is only a free mind that is capable of attention in which there is no achieving or losing or fear. It is only a quiet, attentive mind that can understand this immense problem of living. It is only the quiet, meditative mind that can come upon what is called love. • What is living? • The observer cannot possibly do anything about envy because he is the cause and the effect. Whatever he does with regard to envy is still envy. • What does it mean to die, knowing the organism comes to an end? What does it mean to die psychologically, inwardly? Five Public Discussions 4. Freedom of choice is not freedom - 11 November 1968 Duration: 83 minutes • What do we mean by free will? Is there such thing? • Is choice ever necessary? • Freedom exists only when I perceive very clearly, when the mind sees things as they are. • Q: Is it possible to be free in society? • Q: Is love the absence of hate? • To find out what truth is you must be free of propaganda: the propaganda of the Church, the propaganda of literature, propaganda of tradition, so that you see things clearly for yourself. 5. Learning is action - 12 November 1968 Duration: 56 minutes • Our education is concerned with the accumulation of knowledge. Very few of us are capable of living a life without the influence of specialists. • What is the point of going to a university, getting a degree and disappearing into the vast structure of society? • Q: How shall we approach the idea of study? • If you express from something already accumulated it is a deadly bore, but if you are all the time watching, not only yourself but the world, you are learning. • Q: You say that a mantra is an escape. Do you think that people use drugs as an escape or because they want to become closer? • When I observe myself I cannot learn if I condemn what I find. • We observe through our imagination, through our image, through our knowledge. 6.

J. KRISHNAMURTI Jiddu Krishnamurti (May 12, 1895–February 17, 1986) was a world renowned writer and speaker on philosophical and spiritual subjects. His subject matter included: the purpose of meditation, human relationships, the nature of the mind, and how to enact positive change in global society. Krishnamurti was born into a Telugu Brahmin family in what was then colonial India. In early adolescence, he had a chance encounter with prominent occultist and high-ranking theosophist C.W. Leadbeater in the grounds of the Theosophical Society headquarters at Adyar in Madras (now Chennai). He was subsequently raised under the tutelage of Annie Besant and C.W. Leadbeater, leaders of the Society at the time, who believed him to be a "vehicle" for an expected World Teacher. As a young man, he disavowed this idea and dissolved the world-wide organization (the Order of the Star) established to support it. He claimed allegiance to no nationality, caste, religion, or philosophy, and spent the rest of his life traveling the world as an individual speaker, speaking to large and small groups, as well as with interested individuals. He authored a number of books, among them The First and Last Freedom, The Only Revolution, and Krishnamurti's Notebook. :" In addition, a large collection of his talks and discussions have been published. At age 90, he addressed the United Nations on the subject of peace and awareness, and was awarded the 1984 UN Peace Medal. His last public talk was in Madras, India, in January 1986, a month before his death at home in Ojai, California. His supporters, working through several non-profit foundations, oversee a number of independent schools centered on his views on education – in India, England and the United States – and continue to transcribe and distribute many of his thousands of talks, group and individual discussions, and other writings, publishing them in a variety of formats including print, audio, video and digital formats as well as online, in many languages.

J. KRISHNAMURTI Jiddu Krishnamurti (May 12, 1895–February 17, 1986) was a world renowned writer and speaker on philosophical and spiritual subjects. His subject matter included: the purpose of meditation, human relationships, the nature of the mind, and how to enact positive change in global society. Krishnamurti was born into a Telugu Brahmin family in what was then colonial India. In early adolescence, he had a chance encounter with prominent occultist and high-ranking theosophist C.W. Leadbeater in the grounds of the Theosophical Society headquarters at Adyar in Madras (now Chennai). He was subsequently raised under the tutelage of Annie Besant and C.W. Leadbeater, leaders of the Society at the time, who believed him to be a "vehicle" for an expected World Teacher. As a young man, he disavowed this idea and dissolved the world-wide organization (the Order of the Star) established to support it. He claimed allegiance to no nationality, caste, religion, or philosophy, and spent the rest of his life traveling the world as an individual speaker, speaking to large and small groups, as well as with interested individuals. He authored a number of books, among them The First and Last Freedom, The Only Revolution, and Krishnamurti's Notebook. :" In addition, a large collection of his talks and discussions have been published. At age 90, he addressed the United Nations on the subject of peace and awareness, and was awarded the 1984 UN Peace Medal. His last public talk was in Madras, India, in January 1986, a month before his death at home in Ojai, California. His supporters, working through several non-profit foundations, oversee a number of independent schools centered on his views on education – in India, England and the United States – and continue to transcribe and distribute many of his thousands of talks, group and individual discussions, and other writings, publishing them in a variety of formats including print, audio, video and digital formats as well as online, in many languages.

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